Friday, February 3, 2012

Groupon and Its 'Weird' CEO

By SHAYNDI RAICE (From Wall Street Journal)

Groupon Inc. Chief Executive Andrew Mason wants to prove his company is worth the fuss after its roller-coaster ride to an initial public offering last year.

CEO Andrew Mason on Groupon's long-term prospects and what people got wrong during the company's Nov. 2011 IPO.

The 31-year-old founder took his Chicago-based daily deals site public in November at a valuation of $13 billion, well below the $15 billion to $20 billion price tag Groupon once thought it could command. The IPO also brought on questions about another bubble in the Internet sector and the viability of the daily-deals business model.

Critics pointed out that Groupon was unprofitable and was spending heavily to acquire new subscribers amid a flood of competition from daily-deal clones. The company also raised eyebrows at the Securities and Exchange Commission over an unusual accounting metric called Adjusted Consolidated Segment Operating Income, which showed the company's revenue minus certain marketing costs.

Groupon's stock soared 31% above its $20 IPO price on its first day of trading, but withered in following weeks. Shares closed at $19.63, down 2.1%, in 4 p.m. trading Monday. The company is set to report its first quarterly results as a public company next week.

Mr. Mason, who sometimes posts online videos of himself in his underwear doing yoga or dancing, sat down for a recent interview in his Chicago office to discuss challenges facing the company and his ability to handle them. Edited excerpts:

WSJ: Do you think you're mature enough to be the CEO of a multi-billion dollar company?

Mr. Mason: I got the company this far. To the degree I was weird, I was weird before we were a public company and managed to get it worth whatever it's worth. I'm going to continue doing my thing and work my butt off to add value for shareholders and as long as they and the board see fit to keep me in this role, I feel enormously privileged to serve.
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WSJ: Groupon has been criticized by analysts and investors for not being profitable. How important is profitability?

Mr. Mason: We believe that the most important thing for us to be focused on is growing the business, building something that our consumers and our merchant partners love. And when you focus on those inputs, revenue and profitability is the output and it follows naturally.

WSJ: Some critics say the daily deal model is too easy to replicate.

Mr. Mason: There's proof. There are over 2,000 direct clones of the Groupon business model. However, there's an equal amount of proof that the barriers to success are enormous. In spite of all those competitors, only a handful are remotely relevant.

WSJ: Why?

Mr. Mason: People overlook the operational complexity. We have 10,000 employees across 46 countries. We have thousands of salespeople talking to tens of thousands of merchants every single day. It's not an easy thing to build.

WSJ: You had a rough IPO. What was the hardest part?

Mr. Mason: After filing the S-1, we entered a quiet period that greatly restricted our ability to have a conversation with the public. It was frustrating to not be able to directly address many of the concerns that people raised about the business.

WSJ: Including discussing "Adjusted Consolidated Segment Operating Income?" You were accused by critics of trying to hide your high marketing costs from investors.

Mr. Mason: Groupon spends money on marketing in a way that's different from traditional Internet and e-commerce companies. Our marketing spend is designed to drive subscribers to our daily mailing list. A traditional e-commerce company is driving transactions. Our own proprietary advertising network can continually advertise to our customers at virtually no additional cost. There's an upfront investment that we know pays off over the long-term.

WSJ: Was it a mistake to include that metric?

Mr. Mason: In retrospect, I think it was naive, and I wouldn't have included it. The list of companies that have added their own financial metrics is not a savory group. It created a distraction that wasn't worth the benefit.

WSJ: The SEC also took issue with a memo you wrote to employees during the quiet period that was leaked to the press.

Mr. Mason: I wrote the memo because 23-year-olds were coming into my office and asking how they should respond to their parents when they ask if Groupon is about to go bankrupt. The risks of not communicating to my employees were greater than the risks of doing otherwise.

If I knew it was going to leak, I would have been less bizarre, and I wouldn't have made a joke about my now-wife. She was upset. (He joked that his then-girlfriend asked him why he never said anything nice about her.)

WSJ: Groupon's stock price is trading below its IPO price of $20. Why?

Mr. Mason: Luckily there are people smarter than me in this world that know the answers to those kinds of questions. I leave that to the financial community.

I'm aware of it [stock price], but I think as a company we aren't driven by it. Even in our short time as a public company, we've seen enough examples of the stock shifting 5% or 10% based on nothing, that you're very quickly trained that it's a futile exercise to be responsive to the stock.

WSJ: What opportunities are you most excited about for Groupon?

Mr. Mason: The fundamental innovation of Groupon is that we've found a way to enhance local commerce using the Internet. We've used the discount to deliver more buying power for consumers, as well as solve better inventory management for merchants, delivering them more profits. The "daily deal" is the first incarnation of local e-commerce. We can turn Groupon into a daily habit for consumers, and something that enhances every transaction for merchants.

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5 comments:

  1. This is a related article on the topic from the Wall Street Journal 2/8/11

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203315804577209570839921882.html

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    1. Nice article. It really is amazing how far they have come in such a short time. This is something that we will have to keep an eye on in the next couple of years.

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  2. As "weird" as this CEO may be, he got Groupon this far and they have been successful. Overall, Groupon seems to be doing well, but I believe if they want to achieve future success a change may be necessary. Their biggest concern should focus on customer loyalty with all of the new daily deal sites that they are competing with. Maybe adding a subscription fee with better savings may enhance loyalty. If that will help them continue to provide great deals, customers may stick around long term.

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    1. I completely agree. If they charge some type of fee they will be able to provide their loyal customers with even better deals!

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  3. Here is an acticle I found today on Yahoo Finance showing that Groupon may be a profitable company after all.

    ..Groupon Q4 Proves It’s A Real Business But The Stock’s Still Expensive
    ..By Henry Blodget
    .PostsWebsiteEmail .By Henry Blodget | Daily Ticker – 3 hours ago


    After Groupon reported its Q4 earnings yesterday, I suggested it was time for all the folks saying the company "can't make money" to finally admit that they're wrong.

    And it is time for that.

    Groupon's business generated a nice operating profit and cash flow in Q4, while still posting modest growth. And the company expects to post more growth and profit in Q1. So it obviously can make money.

    (The cool-kid argument had been that, once Groupon cut marketing costs, revenue would tank because the company was "just a Ponzi scheme." That theory, however popular, has been proven wrong.)

    True, Groupon lost money on its net income line in Q4. But this was the result of a bizarrely huge international tax bill, which is not what Groupon dissers were referring to when they opined that Groupon couldn't make money. This big tax bill will apparently persist for a few quarters, but it has nothing to do with the company's operating business, which is now profitable.

    But...

    Just because it's time for Groupon haters to admit they were wrong about the company's business model doesn't mean it's time to buy the stock.

    Stocks are different than companies, and it's a disparity between a stock price and a company's estimated fundamental value that creates opportunities for investors.

    When Groupon's stock popped to $30 on the day of the IPO, I said "Enjoy The Ride, Groupon Investors, I'm Outta Here!!!". And that stance wasn't just based on the market's irrational exuberance on the morning of the IPO. It was based on the theory that Groupon's growth would continue to decelerate massively over the next few quarters and that a $20 billion market value didn't account for that.

    Well, Groupon's stock has now dropped to the low-$20s, giving it a market value of ~$15 billion. This is an improvement from a potential investment perspective. But, unfortunately, in my opinion, it's still too high a price for the stock to be attractive given the business transition the company is undergoing (from hyper-growth to profitable growth).

    At $15 billion, Groupon is trading at about 6X a 2012 revenue estimate of about $2.5 billion. That's not outrageous, but it's also not cheap, especially for a company whose growth is decelerating so rapidly.

    This quarter's growth is expected to be modest, and growth for several quarters thereafter is likely to remain challenging. In addition to cutting back on marketing spending, Groupon fired a bunch of salespeople last fall, and the impact of this change is probably starting to hit the company right now.

    Groupon also has now made a dumb-ass rookie mistake that should raise some yellow flags.

    Yesterday, in its first quarter as a public company Groupon stopped disclosing certain operating metrics that it had disclosed in all of its pre-IPO filings.

    What does that mean?

    It probably means what it usually means anytime a company stops disclosing something:

    Those key metrics now look bad enough that the company doesn't want to share them.

    And that's not good news.

    So, yes, it's time for the smug Groupon haters who have confidently maintained for the past three years that the company could "never make money" to finally admit they were wrong.

    But, no, it's not time to buy Groupon's stock.

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